Conservative CA activist Chelene Nightingale ordered To Court Again For Debtors Exam

Some privileged people/politicians don't have to pay their personal debts.....
Conservative CA activist Chelene Nightingale ordered To Court Again For Debtors Exam

Chelene Nightingale, former manager of SOS, has been ordered to appear in court again to divulge her finances to a judgement creditor over a personal loan she recieved a few weeks before filing for bankruptcy. Ms Nightingale solicited the loan from a former supporter of hers within the Save Our State membership, allegedly after describing the need to pay for basic family needs. The lender became concerned after the debt went unserviced for nearly two years, and filed suit after Ms Nightingale began appearing in many public events all over the state during a failed attempt to run for governor. The lender, a previous supporter of Ms Nightingale's activism in the anti-illegal immigration field, has apparently once again lost patience with her willingness to address the debt after recently seeing her jet to a conference in Harrisburg, and make make appearances within the state at various other events. Once again the court documents clearly refer to this as a loan, and Nightingale never used any "gifting" as a defense. The trial recording is still downloadable:
forum LINK- http://saveourstate.info/showthread.php?t=4010&highlight=frank+george+vs+chelene+nightengale
When the court issued judgement for $6200.00 plus court costs
See The Kern County superior court website for more information.

It is very hypocritical of Chelene to ask for the feds for protection from her state personal debts while also relentlessly parroting that she would stand up to the feds on the water issue, immigration and a few others.

Maybe Nightengale's found a way to make money to pay off her personal debts with campaigne or supporters funds. She's organizing a Nullification Now Tour on the internet.

Tickets to hear Nightengale her highness speak are only $75.00 for front row. $10.00 for steerage class.

Do you want this delusional woman to be your next Governor ???...NOT for my calif governor!!

VERY Embarrassing Chelene Nightengale in video action...Do you want this delusional woman to be your next Governor ???...NOT for my calif governor!! **3rd party AIP Calif Governor 2010 candidate, Chelene Nightingale whorse voice can be heard starting at :07 seconds and goes on th...ru-out video yelling out; 'Fat ass', 'call 911', 'child abuse' and so on with children present at the fast food stand. The ball-capped blonde in the video is SOS staffer, Janet 'Blondee' and the video camera holding male with ball-cap is (now defunct) No More Invasion org leader, Dennis 'Americanpatriot' Slater.

Video proof LINK(copy & paste into browser):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX2Iu59B9cc

Minuteman Santa Clarita Rally, PART 2

The Santa Clarita Rally even had MecHa 3 Goons with video cameras interviewing naive attendees for their You TUbe account re-use....


2 more MecHa goons with video cameras

From an Eyewitness account of the rally:

At a busy popular corner of the Santa Clarita City Center, there was a flurry of patriotic sights and sounds last morning of Saturday January 16th, 2010. Readers might recall another similar political rally at the same location back in 2008. About 200 people participated in the last Minutemen rally, according to Santa Clarita’s newspaper, The Signal. Magic Mountain Parkway and Valencia Blvd, southwest corner is a popular event spot. Hundreds of smiling broad-based citizens with American flags holding Tax Revolt and Pro-Citizenship placards lined the streets and sidewalks. Also, Santa Clarita’s drivers by could hear the event’s guest speaker’s comments and many popular songs with pertinent political messages like playing The Beatles song, ‘The Tax Man’.

The event’s host and Master Ceremonies, Frank Jorge of AV Independent Minutemen keep things moving along for 2 hours. This event had been organized by many ‘umbrella’ volunteer political organizations. Here is a list of the helpful groups: Antelope Valley Independent Minutemen. Campo Minutemen, Ventura County Tea Party Tax Revolt Minutemen, Santa Clarita Tea Party Tax Revolt Minutemen, Ventura Tea Party Tax Revolt, Santa Clarita Tea Party Tax Revolt, and We The People org. Other minor local tax revolt and pro-citizenship organizations managed to contribute their networking and small assistance to make this event a success.

The rally was scheduled for 11 am to 1 pm. Several important quest speakers used this event to get their points across to all listening intently and all passers-by. Primarily, this event was another in the many Tax Revolt or ‘Tea Parties’ as the voter’s angry reaction to the Congress and the President’s pointless over-spending and budget busting. Also, illegal alien immigration issues were covered due to an impeding new additional Congressional amnesty bill, written by U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill. That bill is #4321. With the current great dissatisfaction with elected sitting city, state, and federal legislative incumbents, Kathleen ‘Suzy’ Evans was a guest speaker running for the State Assembly 40th District in the San Fernando Valley. She spoke on solving many community problems including the local illegal alien immigration problem. “It is the elephant in the room that no one wants to discuss. If you talk about illegal immigration, you’re called a racist or a bigot. I am not afraid to talk about illegal immigration because I am not afraid to speak the truth. It is a fiscal as well as social nightmare for many parts of the United States, but especially so for all of us in California. This is a fact: The taxpayers of California spend more than $13 Billion dollars a year on subsidies to people who are in this country illegally. So here’s a question we should all be asking: at a time when we are struggling with our state budget, and our legislators are cutting firefighters, laying off teachers, closing our state parks and even letting criminals out of prisons early in order to save money. Why did they not cut any of the subsidies to illegal immigrants? We need to stop placing the needs of those who are here illegally before the needs of our own families, our businesses and our friends.”
The next guest spoke; Linda Paine is a member of the Santa Clarita Tea Party group. Ms. Paine said the Minutemen aren't hateful, but misunderstood. "Voters and Americans should be able to say ‘no' to illegal immigration without being called a racist," Paine said. The next person to speak, Santa Clarita Valley Independent Minutemen’s leader Roger Gitlin said the proposed immigration reform could ruin the country and the economy and he's discouraged enough about it to help organize the rally this weekend. "Mexico can't export its poverty to the U.S.," Mr. Gitlin said, referring to illegal alien immigrants. "I love this country. In a short period of time it could be unrecognizable.” "The people who come here and wave Mexican or Colombian flags are not interested in legal US citizenship," Mr. Gitlin said. "People from poverty come here for economic salvation, not to become citizens. People that don't have a means to support themselves should go back to their own home country." The next guest presenter, William Scarpino is a practiced speaker and representative of the Ventura County Tea Party. His outspoken group has been very active hosting public successful events at the Ventura City Center on Victoria Boulevard in the last year. Those Tax Revolt event’s attendance have been huge, very positive, informative and vocal. Mr. Scarpino powerfully expressed the taxpayer’s need to shrink our government. The Obama administration over spending will hurt the already shrinking middle-class of employed voters.

As a nice surprise for myself and many other event activists attending was hearing the next scheduled speaker’s comments. Bob Kellar, a Santa Clarita City Councilman was very powerful and informative since his views came from someone trying to work for voters inside of a mostly liberal over-spending government. Clearly, Mr. Kellar was very irritated in his podium presentation and in his comments. “The voter’s views are being ignored by their elected representatives,” he stated. Then next speaker was a very familiar and very influential face in the American and Mexican communities; it is ‘WethePeople’ administrator, Ray Herrera. Mr. Herrera’s message was building on Mr Kellar’s views expressing that every voter MUST get active and politically work in 2010 elections to influence upcoming elections away from bigger government and less personal freedom for individuals.

The next group of event speakers was very important for all in attendance to hear and understand because the next speaker group relates their first-hand experience dealing with the murders of American citizens and law enforcement officers by illegal aliens. Craig & Debbi Britt of the US border monitors, Campo Minutemen spent their time talking about the recent violent murder of ICE Border Agent Rosas. Agent Rosas had a young family and his death is still unsolved when he was shot in the head execution style four times by border ‘coyotes’ at the border. Mr. Britt was helpful in contributing important crime information to the Federal authorities investigating this agent’s killing. The next speaker is a direct crime victim of illegal alien crimes in Los Angeles. Activist, Mr. Jamiel Shaw Sr spoke courageously and eloquently about his college-bound son, Jamiel. An illegal alien gang member recently released from city jail for carrying a gun and assaulting a police officer murdered Jamiel Shaw Jr, his son. This gang member was released before the city police officials told ICE officials of his custody as prescribed by Federal law. Mr. Shaw and his family are influential in getting a Los Angeles ordinance called ‘Jamiel’s Law’ to be on the ballot by Los Angeles voter’s initiative process as a response to this tragedy. Sadly, the voter registrar said not enough valid voter signatures were collected to qualify this petition for the election only months ago. There are some major questions about that voter registrar decision. The next speaker pair had another personal connection to illegal alien crimes right here in Santa Clarita. Mr. & Mrs. John & Barbara March told of they’re heartbreaking experiences. Illegal aliens killed their adult son during his duties working as a Los Angeles Deputy Sheriff. In a routine traffic stop, he was murdered. The murder was found, tried, and is serving a life sentence in solitary confinement, instead of the righteous death penalty.

On a lighter note, the next speaker was not a crime victim or leader of a volunteer activism group. The speaker’s point of view was just as important to be heard. Mr. Mario Alvarez, a Canyon Country resident spoke to the crowd about his immigration experiences. He came from Mexico City 49 years ago and has been a citizen since 1979. He told his audience that it is wrong for aliens to come here from Mexico, illegally. He proudly stated that the USA is a great generous country and had his advice to Mexican illegal alien immigrants is to not enter the USA legally. His speech had drivers at the intersection responding in impromptu cheers.

Some event speakers personally blamed President Obama for the countries’ problems. Mr. Frank Jorge of Antelope Valley Independent Minutemen shared his negative perceptions about President Obama and his administration. At one point, Mr. Jorge questioned President Obama place of birth and his citizenship credentials for being elected as the President of the US. Mr. Jorge says that Barrack Obama maybe should be working in the White House, only in the capacity of a service butler. The next and final speaker was Robert Crooks of the problematic Mountain Minutemen. Mr. Crooks message was for everyone to ‘buy guns and ammo’ for the upcoming civil war in the US. People experiencing and listening to this rally came up with many conclusions and might be interesting to share. Many uncomfortable, bellicose and unconstructive views of any guest speakers with their personal attacks on named public officials were not well received or easy accepted by the event’s listeners. I heard it said at this event, “Some people should not be given a microphone to turn a positive informative rally into a place to personally rant and vent”. It seems it’s much more interesting to hear new candidates for upcoming election, and new positive comments with practical solutions to our countries’ problems from the rallies podium than to turn the event into a ‘witch hunt’.

How to ruin a public rally event...Santa Clarita Rally trash talking starts...

Several known local activists know to me due to my years ‘in the trenches’ helping to produce similar local events showed up to this event. Jean ‘Jean-from-Fillmore’ and ‘Eagle 1’, Gloria ‘Olde-Glory’, Susan ‘Standing-alone’, and Sam ‘Derail-amnesty-com’ come to mind. Chelene Nightengale of the now dead, Save Our State volunteer organization has burned several leaders in this ‘Cause’ and moved on without any Chelene apologies to the people she damaged. Even though some people have tried to resurrect Save Our State as a new and improved volunteer organization ‘SOS.info’, it seems this Santa Clarita event organizers and their ‘lapdogs’ can't let things drop with in the new ‘SOS.info’. They’re still taking trash behind people’s back or carrying on a ‘witch-hunt’ just like the hated Ms. Nightengale. That ‘SOS.info’ inside clique group REALLY is what I was concerned about. Clearly, it is just another incarnation of a backstabbing everyone Chelene old SOS's again with ‘SOS.info’, just with new people in charge. That’s VERY sad for the success of our ‘The Mission’.

Is this what happens when ‘SOS.info’ get a new junkie website and contribute to a street rally in Santa Clarita ??
Begin to ‘trash-talk’ people who attended and helped to bring rally guest speakers????? WOW, here we go again.
How come ‘SOS.info’ look and talk and act like snarky Chelene already. Sad or hypocritical...Who knows which?

SOME EXAMPLES: OFF THE ‘SOS.info’ FORUMS SITE, posted by Sam ‘derail-amnesty-com’ LINK:

http://www.saveourstate.info/showpost.php?p=3820&postcount=45

QUOTE-Tony and Dennis would show up at the same location and bloodshed would ensue. CalifNative did indeed put in appearance but AmericanPatriot77 was absent. And no, the former caused no problems whatsoever, which is pretty much his M.O. Mr. Pariah is usually no trouble so long as he is deprived of an Internet connection.-UNQUOTE

Sam didn't check his facts on his false ‘SOS.info’ comment, so this is inaccurate statement. But, for a lawyer and university professor, he was never someone for exact facts, names, and dates. That’s very bad for a ‘SOS.info’ spokesperson. People read Sam’s account of the Santa Clarita rally event, just as BAD and sloppy on the real goings on.
I attended the public and open Santa Clarita Rally. IN FACT, I got more rally attendance there by my 'internet connections’ networking with my Tax Revolt and Minuteman Project friends (You or your mindless cronies didn't) and two of your guest speakers were there & spoke because of my 'internet connections’. (You might have just lost those contributors for any rally future events with this ‘back-stabbing’ stunt against me. They don't like your trash talking and all.) You forgot to be nice/positive and mention that ONLY.
Instead you continued the 'hate Tony' diatribe with your petty Chelene-like posse of SOS.info clone hive minders like jeanfromfillmore, and such. (Jeanfromfillmore was Chelene’s biggest supporter and lapdog. Jean only changed away when the authoritarian ‘wind’ blew differently. Now she thinks she’s a leader in SOS.info)

MORE Chelene-like mindset ‘SOS.info’ Proof:
OFF THE ‘SOS.info’ FORUMS SITE, posted by Sam ‘derail-amnesty-com’ LINK: From Jean from Fillmore (big Chelene supporter and lapdog) says and thinks....

http://www.saveourstate.info/showpost.php?p=3895&postcount=8

QUOTE-"We have video of what Roger Gitlin said and will review it. If we find that his views do not coincide with ours, he will not be invited to speak at another event. Let's wait and see, but I heard what he said, and from what I remember, the paper quoted what he said."-UNQUOTE

Got Freedom of Speech in jingoistic SOS.info or is SOS.info afraid of that ??? Just like in George Orwell’s 1984, Gestapo-like FBISacto, SOS.info orgs forums...
SOS.info have become what you hate.
SOS.info still haven't learned from the Chelene jingoistic experience.
Jean is an org 'flea', which jumps from org to org for her own shallow personal ego needs and wishes.
Think about it before it’s too late.
The joke's on you and the problematic SOS.info. It shows you don’t learn from your past organizing xenophobic experiences and you still do the same stupid stuff like this.

Nightengale being sued for deceitful misrepresentation of 2010 AIP candidate

Re: Nightengale being sued for deceitful misrepresentation of 2010 AIP candidate
IS THIS RESPONSE SUPPOSED TO MAKE VOTERS FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE CANDIDDATE? I don't think it will.
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RE: Nightengale being sued 4 deceitful misrepresentation of 2010 AIPcandidate????
Dear Minutemen - I write to you as the Vice-Chairman of the American IndependentParty regarding the information in the e-mails noted below
-1) Chelene Nightingale is a announced American Independent Party candidate forthe governors office in 2010. She, as with any other AIP candidate, does not need the approval of the AIP Central Committee to campaign for office. The idea of being sued for announcing as a candidate of the AIP is utterly ridiculous but it is in keeping with the actions of Mark Robinson who, falsely below, claims to be the AIP Chairman.
2) The truth regarding the current reality of the AIP can be found at a website which I created - TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com. This site alsodocuments the corruption of numerous other persons including Mark Robinson.
3) Separate from the e-mails below I can tell you that the AIP, and the nationalConstitution Party of which it is the California affiliate, is the onlypolitical party which has no compromise in supporting the goals of theMinutemen. You will find that Chelene Nightingale is in total harmony with the needs, aims, and goals of the Minutemen. Please investigate her campaign foryourself. You will find that what I have said is true.
Don Grundmann, Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch ofthe Constitution Party
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In saveoursanity2@yahoogroups.com, "s" wrote:>> Chelene Nightengale being sued for deceitful misrepresentation of 2010 AIPcandidate for CA governor.>>

From: Patriotic Warrior> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:33 AM>> Hello sir, Is Chelene Nightingale the AIP's candidate for Governor of California?> Thank you for your time.> ->>

From: Markham (mark@...)> Sent: Thu 8/20/09 9:34 AM> To: 'Patriotic Warrior'>> No. The primary hasn't been held yet. We will be endorsing someone else forGovernor. A tiny group calling themselves a "Branch of the Constitution Party"has endorsed her.>> She never approached the AIP State Central Committee. It is fraudulent for her to use our name. We will be demanding in forceful terms that she cease and desist this deceitful representation.>> Markham Robinson,
AIP Chairman> www.aipca.org> www.selfgovernment.us> www.aipnews.com> www.aipnews.com/affiliate.asp-

Shawna Forde is a member of Chelene Save Our State & her buddie.

This was emailed to me...

"You know, crazy can be fun to watch at times. Chelene is running around pretending that Shawna Forde is a surprise. This is too funny.

Shawna Forde is a member of Save Our State (SOS member BorderHawk). That is how I met her. She attended a border event with her BorderHawks co-founder Michael Williams. You all know Michael Williams as AZPatriot of Save Our State. Mr. Williams was the webmaster for SOS and was introduced to me by Ms. Nightingale as her "closest personal friend" at SOS.

Mr. Williams is an unemployed convicted felon (Burglary, breaking and entering, and receiving stolen property) which is why (by his own admission) he never joined the Minuteman Project. **<-- Fact not rumor

You may all know Mr. Williams, Ms. Forde, and Ms. Nightingale from their countless emails asking for donations to aide in the search for Ms. Forde's daughter who was "kidnapped by the Russian Mob", which was prominently advertised on Save Our State's forum and webpage for weeks in spite of warnings from the Seattle Police Dept. that it was a fraud. **<-- Fact not rumor

As I understand it, Ms. Nightingale's claim that Jim "refused to believe" that Shawna was involved in murder and robbery actually makes sense. Jim didn't know Shawna very well and it stands to reason that he was surprised. But, why then was Chelene and her #2 boy at SOS working so closely with Shawna if they knew just how crazy she actually is? In fact, nobody except for Jim has expressed surprise at the revelation that Ms. Forde is a murdering former prostitute fraud nutjob (allegedly on some of that).

Now, perhaps Chelene didn't actually care enough about SOS to purge Ms. Forde and Mr. Williams from the ranks, but surely our Governor to be had to put two and two together while she was sleeping on Michael's couch (technically his parent's couch) after becoming homeless (**see - she lost her house and consequently her rock star unemployed husband). Governor Chelene had to know something was up when she saw Mr. Williams and Ms. Forde dating. I know Michael denies this now, but the truth is the truth. We all saw them together at Vigellance-a-palooza.

So, to recap;

Chelene's buddy, webmaster, and temporary landlord is a known convicted felon who started a group with another SOS member (**also a convicted felon), but Jim is to blame for Shawna's prominence in the Border Movement. (**Funny enough, Chelene's buddy probably would have been in on Shawna's home invasion plan if he had somebody to mooch the gas money off of.) Chelene isn't surprised that Shawna is a nut job yet Shawna is a member of her beloved SOS. Chelene never once asked Shawna to leave any SOS function nor did she mind sharing a brew with her at the border, but Jim is to blame for Shawna.

Well, I agree with Ms. Nightingale on one thing. Murder IS a serious thing, but Ms. Nightingale is not and anybody who takes her seriously needs a CAT scan immediately.

It is important that everybody know the truth, but it is also important to note that all of the bickering and infighting is exactly what Chelene wants. It is what allows her to constantly slip through the cracks as she defames patriots by spreading rumor and innuendo. Yeah, Jim got duped by Shawna, but so did everyone else who never kicked her ass off the border or out of their orgs. But, as far as I can tell, Chelene was the only person who KNOWINGLY condoned Ms. Forde.

So, that you don't think I am totally full of crap, ask yourself if ANY of these sound familiar. Here is a partial list of Chelene's lies;

1) She has "SEEN" the proof that the hijackers are right (**she denied ever saying this in court)
2) Ray Herrera embarrassed her and the Ramos family in TX when Nacho surrendered
3) Ray Herrera and Robin are not true Christians (**as she is) because they left their spouses for each other
4) Ted Hayes was told by her and his friend Rhonda to get a job but would rather be homeless
5) Steve Eichler and Jim Gilchrist are the gay half children of Satan
6) William Gheen frivolously spends his donors money on "the biggest suite in the place" at the DC event and in Phoenix at the Ramos & Compean rally (**among others)
7) That March for America founder Jonnie Crivello was "sniveling" and power hungry
8) That Cheryl Burns and those who supported Chuck Baldwin were delusional and stealing Ron Paul's votes
9) She stated that she would never work with Jeff Schwilk because he is abusive to women

Believe me, the list goes on and you KNOW that you have heard her say these things and/or things like them. But, you know now that I think about it this was all probably Jim's fault.

One other thing, let's do a quick comparison;

Jim - Decorated war vet, co-wrote a book, launched the NATIONAL illegal immigration movement, 4000+ media appearances, endorsement sought by Presidential Candidate, head of Minuteman Project, Congressional candidate, married for 30+ years, and retired professional.

Chelene - Divorced, homeless, took SOS from 4000+ members to 10, never ran for ANY office, last job was handing out cheese in a supermarket (<-- True Story), pretends to be a model and actress yet has no credits or body of work, never served in uniform, no volunteer or activist resume, never founded anything.

And for the record, I am not a Minuteman and do not owe Jim nor anyone else a thing. I am not part of his (**or any) camp. So, don't try to belabor the truth by pretending that only one group sees through this crap. In fact, we all do.

Yes, everyone in these petty squabbles looks silly including Jim, but he has earned more in his lifetime than Chelene is even capable of recognizing. And the only reason that any of you fault Jim at all is because you expected more from him than you expect from Chelene. So, why are we supposed to vote for her again? Case closed."